tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post3989252310081637192..comments2023-06-23T06:29:42.841-04:00Comments on True Free Grace: Atheist lodges valid objection if you are Arminian!bluejazzyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03008008466362515438noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-3811614170990964062008-07-02T11:26:00.000-04:002008-07-02T11:26:00.000-04:00Don,Thanks. Good point!Don,<BR/>Thanks. Good point!jazzycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16720471765591930568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-88423283723864933442008-07-02T11:25:00.000-04:002008-07-02T11:25:00.000-04:00John,Thanks for the response.The bottom line of yo...John,<BR/>Thanks for the response.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line of your assertion is basically the same as that of Adam's desires. You are asserting a parallel relationship with the God of the Bible. Since the actual relationship is vertical, you are basing a lot of judgmental thinking about God on a faulty premise. As a former pastor I am sure you are aware that the Bible makes a huge distinction between the pot and the potter.<BR/><BR/>Those who believe in Allah are in the same boat as atheists, so I am not sure I follow your point here.<BR/><BR/>Those of the antinomian free grace movement consider you saved and bound for eternal life. I would sure like and appreciate to know how you would react if they are correct and you discovered after death that you were headed for heaven. How would you react? What would you say to God?jazzycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16720471765591930568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-28191153780724115052008-07-02T10:46:00.000-04:002008-07-02T10:46:00.000-04:00" And our sins cannot be so bad"But they are, acco..." And our sins cannot be so bad"<BR/><BR/>But they are, according to Scripture. We can think whatever we want, can't we.<BR/><BR/>Some people will say Hitler was evil, but what about Ganhdi?<BR/><BR/>God looks a one Man, and He is the example for us all. Jesus of Nazareth is how one is to live.<BR/><BR/>But no one can, so there's no way to the Father.<BR/><BR/>But God, with his great love wherewith He loved us gave His Beloved Son, and Jesus declared He is the Way. He is the Truth. And He is the Life.<BR/><BR/>Jesus is the good news for a world of sinners.<BR/><BR/>People make up what they think is bad and good don't they. But how do they come up with what is bad?<BR/><BR/>Is raping a child bad? How about stealing a bike?<BR/><BR/>God sees it way different then we do.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-19375600457223281032008-07-02T07:59:00.000-04:002008-07-02T07:59:00.000-04:00If your God chooses not to cause my salvation thro...If your God chooses not to cause my salvation through regeneration then I am damned to hell and there is nothing by believing in the Gospel I can do in obedience to the Gospel which will bring me into salvation. <BR/><BR/>It's very hard for you to see THIS for what it is. <B>That, my friends, is a callous and indifferent God unworthy of nothing more than disgust from me.</B><BR/><BR/>Let's say Allah exists, predetermines that you are deceived into believing in Christianity just to send you to hell. That is the same kind of thing you believe with regard to me. What would you think of Allah? The same thing I think of Yaweh. <B>That, my friends, is a callous and indifferent God unworthy of nothing more than disgust.</B><BR/><BR/>It's simply incredible that you would believe in such a God, love him, praise and worship him. This God of your is nothing but a big bully, and egomaniac, a despicable thug. He is a user, and it does no good to say he has a right to use us. As people with thoughts and feelings we still want to know we are loved and cared for and not used.<BR/><BR/>The atonement does nothing to save your God for there is no theory of atonment that is rationally justifiable. And our sins cannot be so bad that it justifies your God's treatment of us. No theory of justice demand that a criminal should be punished differently depending on who he victimized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-90408398773525809662008-07-01T18:11:00.000-04:002008-07-01T18:11:00.000-04:00Don,Thanks. Good points. TRUE FREE GRACE is from...Don,<BR/>Thanks. Good points. TRUE FREE GRACE is from God and it does not fail.jazzycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16720471765591930568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325570063154994968.post-71006463796742261682008-07-01T15:42:00.000-04:002008-07-01T15:42:00.000-04:00Jack Hayford would say he was once a Christian, ev...Jack Hayford would say he was once a Christian, even born again, but has lost his standing with God. He is unborn again.<BR/><BR/>Paul commends the Corinthian believers in his first epistle, and then says: "unless you have believed in vain".<BR/><BR/>There are false disciples in the Church. Some go out, because they are not of us, as St. John tells us.<BR/>And there will be many in the Church who false believers, lukewarm, and Jesus says you are better to be hot or cold. many will say Lord Lord on that day, and many will give an account for trusting, and then turning their back on God.<BR/>And there will be those who by His great mercy shall be forever grateful, and full of undeserving joy.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.com